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Thank you Ali Sina for putting into one place things I have
said my entire life. I never was a believer in any organized religion, but many
people I love are. They are Christians but the same thing applies. The blind
faith cripples rational thought and drives people apart, the doctrine of
organized religion is written by evil men bent on control no matter how harmful.
I will forward this tract on "weaning" to my wife in hopes of planting
the seeds of doubt, she would never listen to me an "infidel" of
Christianity. The circular arguments of using the example of others faith to prove the righteousness of one's own faith is crazy but pandemic. I will continue to read your site and maybe comment, again thank you for your courage. Fell free to write me back if you feel the need or have the time. I love to debate & discuss with intellectually honest people. Pete R.
Imagine that a company produces an automobile which, due to
a design fault, is likely to burst into flames if it is involved in a certain
kind of impact. Imagine that this
eventuality has actually occurred on several occasions.
What would the company be expected to do?
One would hope that the company would recall all instances of that model
and have those cars modified at no cost to the owner. Arguments that the vast majority of owners had experienced
no problems with their vehicles and were statistically unlikely to do so would
be regarded as cynical and immoral. Now imagine a religion which, in certain circumstances,
could be construed as not just vindicating, but positively proscribing the
bombing of the World Trade Center on September 11th 2001.
What should the guardians of that religion be expected to do?
One would hope that they would effectively 'recall' that religion and
modify its design accordingly. Arguments that the vast majority of Muslims have not
committed acts of terrorism and are statistically unlikely to do so should be
regarded as cynical and immoral. (However, I suspect that once the offending passages of the
Qur'an have been removed we'll be left with a very slim volume indeed...) Andrew F.
I am so grateful to you for telling
the truth about Islam. There is so much rhetoric out there about this
peaceful, caring and loving religion. How can anyone begin to accept that
as fact when you quote directly from the Quran that it is the opposite. As
one writer put it..there are two kinds of people in the eyes of the Muslim.
Those in the "camp of war" and those in the "camp of peace".
The peaceful, caring and loving expressions of this religion is exclusively for
those in their self described "camp of peace". For the rest of
us..they call for our death. How can one embrace a religion
that has proven throughout the world to be oppressive and brutal to so many
people. We are truly in a war between "real evil" and that which
is good. Thank you for letting me say these few words of support.
EMS
Hello ,
To the Author Of this We cite: I read your articles on your site and
I applaud you. I have never stopped to think about of Islam or Muslims.Ever
since the World trade incident it has me researching it. And I agree totally I
think this is the work of Satan. That is why the Muslims don' want any one to
criticize them. They don't want the truth revealed. I really think that we are
in the finals days and we should repent. I don't know what is going to happen
from now on, These people are fanatics. God only knows what is going to
happen to us from now on. and to all Muslims think. Does God really preach hate?
have heard from Muslims through the news that they are peaceful people and are
against terrorism then why does the Koran teach so much hate. To kill some one
because one does not posses their belief. I think this is absurd even if one
does not believe in God now one has the right to take your life.Why are these
people so ignorant. Can they not open their eyes and see, can they not listen. I
believe that this was a false prophet and the angel the revealed this so called
Koran was a demon from hell. And to All the Muslims your are free to practice
your believes but do not impose to us your religion if one does not want to
believe in it. Why does your so called scriptures preach so much hate. Even if
you say it doesn't according to all the information I have read it does. I pray
that you open your eyes and accept Jesus as your savior and God as you Father.
may God Save every one and may he conquer Islam. Abraham,
Hi: You are indeed a wonderful person! Your website
was a pleasant shock! May God give you a long life and may you succeed
in your endeavors. Please take care of yourself. I hope that the
end of Islam (or at least political Islam) is near. Regards, SB
Thank you, sir, for revealing some light on what is a very dangerous religion. Especially in these times, when we Americans have to defend everything we do; to be so hated and judged by such false "piety" infuriates me. Islam never really struck me as a religion that is good for women, but do you know that women are converting in rapid numbers?!
As a Christian, I am proud. Some people think Christians are pushy in
their beliefs, but I say Islam has a much more dangerous way to infiltrate.
These are dangerous times, and the Bible warns us of them. Believe in
God or not, one just has to wake up every day to the uncertain terror to
realize that the world cannot afford to suffer another world war.
Yet we must fight, or die for certain by ones who claim to love, but hate us
with a "veiled" passion.
D. Ramanauaskas
Your website is brilliant and inspiring...hopefully more and more of humanity will see through the veil of ignorance and oppression inherent in Islam, and all religions. Thinkers such as you are needed now more than ever in this world -- the messages of Hope, Free Thought, and Evolved Reason are being heard all over the world as humanity learns the lessons of blind faith and religious zealotry. Let us all, throughout the world, unite in solidarity against ignorance and thus foster in a new generation of an Evolved Humanity.
Sincerely,
Julian. H
Dear Dr. Sina. I wanted to write to you and thank you for publishing this
website. I can tell a tremendous amount of time and thought went into all of it. I am Native American and not Christian, nor do I subscribe
to the teachings of my people. These are mostly moralistic fairy tales
designed to impart some degree of magic to the Shamans and to induce the people
into believing they should be feared and therefore minded. I was looking for answers after the events of 9/11 as to
exactly why the Islamic people hated Americans so much. I have talked to
many people who had many different reasons, none of which seemed to me would be
the cause of such hatred. After all there are many deprived, suppressed
and backward masses on this earth who do not choose to kill others. I was just about to accept the fact that these extreme
Islamics were rogues and only using their religion to hide behind a lust for
power. In other words, I was about to make a huge mistake. Since reading
the information on your website, I now understand the real truth. Islam is
based on hatred, particularly of Jews and Christians. I suppose in the
times of Mohammed this was the only way he was able to gain notoriety. I
AM THE TRUE PROPHET, all the rest are only pretenders and should be gotten rid
of by any means possible. This religion leaves no room for acceptance of
anyone different from the "true believers". While many
religions are like this, few subscribe to murder as an end to eliminating
nonbelievers. Thank you once again for opening my eyes. I now know
that there is no such thing as a "moderate Islamic.".
There might be different degrees of the lengths that the individual will go to
in order to eliminate the competition, but in their hearts is murder if they
accept Islam. Americans have a hard time accepting that there could
actually be a religion with millions of followers based on hatred and murder.
It just may be our downfall. I hope not. But, you have helped me to
know my enemy. I have been confused ever since the events of 9/11 because
I found myself disliking a people that I really had no real knowledge of. You have given me knowledge. Knowledge is freedom. Sincerely, Mikal.
you must have done a lot of research on your essays. The most distressing thing i have found is that muslims in general will not discuss the koran or mohammad, especially with an "infidel" like me. There seems to be a collective amnesia about mohammad which i think has crushed the mind of muslims and made control by the islamic clergy easy. However, i do believe that in the end, it is ideas that win minds and hearts and what the fundamentalists fear is a free exchange of ideas and a critical examination of the koran and mohammad's life, politics and morals. Navtej B
Dear Dr.Sina, Your site is informative and your success will be really the success for mankind. I have no doubt that your efforts are comparable to that of MK Gandhi and Martin Luther. I wish you long life and success in your mission. Pls keep me informed if your site location changes due to any circumstance. Bye gn
To: Mr. Ali Sina
I stumbled across your most excellent site whilst surfing the
net for things Islamic. Not knowing too much about Islam, or caring much either,
I was prepared to accept Muslim assurances that their religion is, properly
practiced, basically peaceful and tolerant. The more I have read of the life of
Mohammed and of the Koran the more I have come to the conclusion that those
shrieking bearded mullahs with their bloodthirsty impreccations, far from being
unrepresentative extremists, are its truest practitioners. Ronald B.
You are a brave person for hosting a website with such "defamatory" content. I agree with you and would like to congratulate you on providing insight into this religion. I believe religion is a very personal thing and should not be rammed down someone's throat. I have many muslim friends ... as people they are wonderful, but when it comes to their religion they are distinctly irrational. I pray for your safety ... I can't help but think of the fate of all those who went against the rantings and ravings of the initiators and followers of this religion. I wish everyone would just keep their religion where it belongs .. in their hearts, try to treat others as they would have others treat them and thank whichever god we worship for every day on this planet (instead of destroying it with holy wars). God bless you and keep you safe .. Jason f
To: Mr. Ali Sina
May You Succeed. Fri, 6 Jul 2001 Dear Dr.Sina, Your site is informative and your success will be really the success for mankind. I have no doubt that your efforts are comparable to that of MK Gandhi and Martin Luther. I wish you long life and success in your mission. Pls keep me informed if your site location changes due to any circumstance. Bye gn
Dear Ali, Your site was a pleasure to read and it is comforting to know that there are many out there who share the same viewpoints :) So far I have not come across anything you have said to with which I have not whole heartedly agreed. Keep up the great work ! Bhavs
27 May 2001 Ali! I can hardly breathe!!!! oh, man! Ok, me thinks you are more a Buddhist than a Humanist... or a Humanist with
great respect for Buddhism... etc. But, oh, man! You seem to be very sincere, and your intellect is .... well, par excellence,
but these guys are maniacs, don't you know? Bullet proof vest is not enough.
They seem to have left Salman alone, but you do more damage than Salman.
Salman's stuff is not as legible, crystal clear and ah! so sharp, as yours.... wow! Man, I am a "gavur," aka infidel, but even I will think twice
before I come out swinging like you do here....this stuff is true, of course,
but it's like crying that Jesus Christ was a bastard, for the sandal prints of a
Roman soldier beneath Mary's window, were clearly seen..... wow! Salute! Slainte, etc. Karen. O.
Taken from the Guestbook Note Nr.: 22 from 2001-05-19 05:44:16 email: skapur35@hotmail.com
CommentsALLAH'S APOSTLE'S MAGNANIMOUS OFFER TO SAFIYYAH After butchering Safiyyah's male relatives, enslaving the women and children of her tribe, and raping her...Muhammed showed his compassion and magnaminity by offering her the freedom to return to her people as a Jew, or to marry him as a Muslim. She could have chosen the former, except that her people no longer existed; they were all dead or enslaved. She could have wondered about, a young widow with no kin...vulnerable to the venalities of the men of that era. Or she could choose the security of being the wife of the prophet (peace be upon him). Naturally, she chose the latter. What a poignant illustration of the allure of Islam. What a poignant example of the chivalry of Allah's Apostle.
Dr. Ali Sina, I am Jewish, and no I am not writing to congratulate you on helping to further the Zionist Conspiracy or anything like that, in the spirit of The fundamentalist Hindus and evangelical Christians who have written to you. Nor, on the other hand, would I dream of condemning you for courageously speaking your mind. But I am confused. I have both Muslim and Christian
friends. I was raised to respect the religion of everyone, and believe there is
truth and moral value in all faiths. The faith of my Christian friends has no
more in common with the Grand Inquisitor of Spain than my own; we are agreed
that people who conduct inquisitions, crusades, etc. are cruel and idiotic.
Christianity and Judaism certainly don't have the best of historical relations,
right up to the first half of the 20th century, but I would feel silly
condemning wholesale the faith that inspired Martin Luther King just because
Martin Luther, for instance, was a bigot and believed in demons. I have read the Qu'ran, the Hadiths and studied a bit about
the early history of Islam. Undoubtedly, it was not a shining example of
democracy and tolerance. But neither was the theocracy of Moses or David, or the
Christinaized Roman empire. I guess what I want to know, is, if there are
liberal versions of Judaism and Christianity, can there not be liberal Islam as
well? Is it not the totalitarian spirit (which can also have non-religious
forms, such as Communism and Nazism) rather than religion itself that must be
opposed? In your article to the moderate Muslim apologists, you
state that their attempts to emphasize the kinder, more ethical aspects of Islam
only Result in bolstering fundamentalist Islam. But if this is true, why did the
Muslim fundamentalist over the ages seek so hard to murder and oppress the
Sufis, who offered a less strident vision of God? In a democracy, is it not
possible, even inevitable, that the more Sufi-like and liberal aspects of Islam
will come to the fore? Actually, a month ago, I would not even have asked that
question. I just assumed that my Muslim friends were liberal, religious Muslims,
like my Christian friends. If they believed it was their duty to slit the
throats of the khafirs, they wouldn't be hanging out with the likes of me,
right? But I discovered that it was not quite so. Either they were not religious
ATALL, or they were not as liberal as I had blithely assumed. One friend gave me
an article about how, since Islam is a social religion, it must have control of
the government, including the army, the better to wage jihad. He believed this.
I was astounded. I didn't understand how he could be such a nice guy, friends
with me and apparently easy-going, and yet believe this. How could he not
understand that someone like me must find the idea of living under a Muslim
theocracy as appalling as he would find the idea of living under a Jewish or
Pagan theocracy? His assurances, "Oh, but you wouldn't be killed!" had
rather more the effect of chilling me than reassuring me. I really wanted to argue with him. But I didn't want to be
disrespectful of his religion or have him think I had some ulterior motive
because of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. I am not a Buddhist but what the Taliban did to those
ancient statues made me want to weep. Again, I said nothing about it to my
friend, because I was afraid I would lose my temper and ruin our friendship. But
then I wondered if keeping silent was not the cowardly way out. I read in
article that the Taliban issued a challenge to all Muslims to find one Qu'ranic
verse or Hadith that outlawed their action. I am no expert in Islam, but I
wondered why the moderate Muslims of the world didn't stand up and shout:
"No one of you is a believer until he wants for his brother want he wants
for himself." Isn't that a
Hadith? I searched the Net, looking for the liberal branches of
Islam, equivalent to the liberal, humanistic branches of Christianity and
Judaism and Hinduism and Buddhism. I did find some, such as the Submitters and a
few Sufi sites, which seemed less fundamentalist than others, but even they
still all seemed to claim to be the one, true Islam. (And even if they were kind
enough not to condemn Jews and Christians to hell, not one had anything nice to
say about Baha'is or Hindus or Pagans.) To me, anything claiming to be the one,
true anything has just proved it is neither. Your site (and ISIS) was actually
the closest I could find, and it rejects Islam rather emphatically. Your arguments are compelling, but is that the only choice?
Islam or apostasy? (Although of course, "apostasy" is your right and
no one should be allowed to threaten your life!) Surely there is some good in
Islam worth preserving if it could be wrested from fundamentalists? I feel the whole Middle East and other Muslim countries
would be better off with clear separation of Mosque and State. But is it the
place of someone like me to say so? I know it is a favorite tactic of the
Islamic fundamentalists to accuse any other Muslim they disagree with of being a
"Jewish spy" or helping the Jews or some such nonsense. I have no wish
to inadvertently make life more difficult for those Muslims trying to earnestly
reform their civilization by appearing to confirm this hogwash. On the other
hand, I don't see why all those who support freedom, of whatever religion,
should be ashamed to cooperate. Isn't it the people who bomb one another's
places of worship who should be ashamed? When confronted with arguments like that placed forth by my
friend, should I just listen and disagree politely, so as not to hurt his
feelings, or should I really try to persuade him that what he proposes is
offensive to anyone who cares about freedom? Or would that only convince him
that all Westerners hate Muslims? I don't hate anybody. I don't want to insult
anybody. I don't want to be silent in the face of evil, either. I am just trying
to do the right thing. I respect your integrity and your intelligence so any
thoughts you would be willing to share with me on this matter would be
appreciated. Whether or not you want to post this on your web site is up to you,
I would not be offended either way. GG
From Kaushik Dear Jamal, Today afternoon I had some time so I could go over the many mails you have sent me in last few days. I also had the opportunity to examine the 'Rational thinking' site of Ali Sina. You seem to be perplexed why he is so vicious against what is supposed to be his own faith. Within the very core of your heart you must have some softness towards the religion/culture that you identify with- involuntarily and by birth. We all have that feelings whether we admit it or not. So what's wrong with Ali Sina of Iran. Is he deviant, abnormal or is there a secret. Looking at his apparently fanatic expressions a Muslim person can only feel baffled and wonder whether he is actually Jewish. I think I know the secret and let me forward it to you to help us to understand the rhetoric that surrounds Islam in Iran. Mr Sina is an Iranian. as you know Iran or Persia was the cradle of the earliest Aryan civilization in history who followed the religion of Zarathrustra. Zarathushtra, gave the world a universal message, meant for all humanity without any discrimination. Good Thoughts, Good Words, Good Deeds were first propounded by him. This meant that a thought, word or deed which is beneficial to one's own self as well as to all others. It should benefit the living world of human beings, other animals, plants, in fact, the entire human environment. Zarathushtra says that the entire living world is a single unit, a Fellowship and every man and woman should endeavor to promote it through Good Thoughts, Good Words and Good Deed. This can be achieved through good education to train people who "radiate happiness to others, whoever they be, and in turn feel the happiness themselves." In the seventh century Iran was invaded by the Arab warriors. Conversion to Islam, which offered certain advantages, was fairly rapid among the urban population but slower among the peasantry and the dihqans. The majority of Iranians did not become Muslim until the ninth century.Although the conquerors, especially the Umayyads (the Muslim rulers who succeeded Muhammad from 661-750), tended to stress the primacy of Arabs among Muslims, the Iranians were gradually integrated into the new community. Men of Iranian origin served as administrators after the conquest, and Iranians contributed significantly to all branches of Islamic learning, including philology, literature, history, geography, jurisprudence, philosophy, medicine, and the sciences. The Arabs were in control, however. The new state religion, Islam, imposed its own system of beliefs, laws, and social mores. In regions that submitted peacefully to Muslim rule, landowners kept their land. But crown land, abandoned by fleeing owners, and land taken by conquest passed into the hands of the new state. This included the rich lands of the Sawad, a rich, alluvial plain in central and southern Iraq. Arabic became the official language of the court in 696, although Persian continued to be widely used as the spoken language. The shuubiyya literary controversy of the ninth through the eleventh centuries, in which Arabs and Iranians each lauded their own and denigrated the other's cultural traits, suggests the survival of a certain sense of distinct Iranian identity. In the recent time a group of Iranian intellectuals are renouncing their Islamic heritage and trying to relate with the original Persian culture which is distinctly Aryan and very liberal like other classical civilizations. They are looking at the present Iran as a country dominated and culturally raped by the Arabs. They are also claiming that the major intellectual contributions of the Abbasid era are non-Arab and an expression of pre-invasion classical wisdom of Persia and its excellent connections with the rest of the non-Semitic world- Greece, India and Byzantium. This is a fairly wild thesis but the claims are not totally unfounded. To propagate this idea in a country so influenced by Islam, a strong anti-Arab and Anti-Islam tide must be created. Today's Iran is sick and tired of the prevailing suffocating atmosphere of the Islamic revolution. Khatami is acting as an Iranian Gorbachov in his effort to open up the floodgate slowly but surely, hoping that a washout of the traditional structure may be prevented. But the suppressed youth is becoming very pro-western every day and the ground is set for a strong Anti-Arab propaganda. So a new power game may start there and what we are seeing is probably a groundwork for that. Although this site graphically exaggerates it, there is ample evidence of violence, atrocity and barbarism in Arab history. The basic question is whether the very diverse population of Muslims will eventually dissociate themselves from their Arab heritage and seek union with the culture of their native lands or they will continue to be dominated by pan-Islamic ideology. Only time can answer this. Kaushik
Hello- i would like to say that after reading this site i am a stronger muslim and inshallah believe that everybody who submits to God is a mulim."muslim" means "he who surrenders himself to almighty God and obeys the laws of almighty God"this means whether naturally, or in any other way, everything that surrenders to the law of Almighty God is a Muslim- when a child comes out of a womb of its mother at the time that God has ordered it, what is it? a muslim when the sun goes around in its orbit what is it? a muslim when the moon goes around the earth what is it? a muslim ... the law of gravity- what is it? a Muslim.Everything that submits to Almighty God is a muslim whther non- believers accept it or not.lets point something out that maybe you havent looked at- after going to a lecture on islam by a christian that converted to islam we questioned that; how come in the Old Testament of the Bible God is referred to as the one, the master the lord the KING of the universe and that in the first commandment given to Moses he did not allow anybody to worship graven images or to bow down to anything (the heavens or the earth or anything of that sort)- all the prophets said he was one and that he was the almighty God- throughout the old testament this has been repeated then all of a sudden in the New Testament there are four testamonies the Gospels that called god a 3-in-1?How can christians base their faith on 4 gospels by people who didnt seem to know their last names? Prophet Mohammed did not write the Quran- nobody came and helped him to write the Quran- nobody collaberated with him but in the Quran there are revelations that have come true- such as Prophet Mohammeds prophecies about a baby being fromed by an "alaquah"- a blood clot and other revelations- how did Prophet Mohammed (Peace of Allah Be Upon Him), an illeterate man of the desert, know this? did he have a telescope? No. Finally, i am convinced that Islam is the religion and i am a much stronger muslim now than ever before thats why 1 out of 5 people in the world are muslims people who turn their heads away from islam and reject it are ignorant aisha Dear Aisha, To "submit" one has to have a free will. The sun is made of gas and the moon is a rock. Inanimate objects do not have free will therefore they cannot "submit". Hence the sun and the moon are not Muslims. For the same reason the Earth, the mountains, the trees in your backyard and your cat also are not Muslims. The law of gravity, is a law. It does not have any physical existence. Something that does not have even physical existence cannot submit and therefore, the law of gravity also is not a Muslim. Likewise the penal law, the traffic bylaw and the building code also are not Muslims. Muslims are those who believe in Muhammad, and follow his mandates. There are many religious people who believe in God but do not accept Muhammad. These people are obedient to God but are not Muslims. Of course to be a real Muslim one has to have freedom to choose. If you are born in an Islamic environment and have chosen blindly to follow the religion of your fathers and have not investigated other religions independently, your religion is based on blind imitation and not of free choice. With only few exceptions, all the Muslims are born in Islamic families and have no other choice but to become a Muslim. If they decide to choose another religion they will be executed. This is not freedom and therefore technically, they are not "Muslims" because they do not have the freedom of choice to submit.. Now you may say that Islam is the only true religion those who do not accept Muhammad are disobeying God. You are entitled to your thoughts. People of other persuasions believe that Muhammad was an impostor and is misleading those who follow him. If someone really wants to find who is right, she must read the arguments of both sides without prejudice. Otherwise she will remain in her ignorance all the her life believing to have found the truth. Also God does not need anyone to worship him. He certainly will not punish someone eternally with such horrible tortures as described in Quran for failing to worship him. This quality is more befitting of narcissist psychopaths like Saddam Hussein and Hitler and not the almighty God. If this is your god, then you are worshipping a very wrong god. As for the formation of baby, please read this article For other errors of Quran see this list. Regards Ali Sina
assalamo alaykum my previous e-mail that i sent you are not just my thoughts- they are of a man who converted from Christianity to Islam when he realised the wrong and misleading path he was leading-the previous e-mail was quoting him in a conference he made about islam in Cardiff International Arena. consequently, the comments i made were quoting him - i would like to say also that turning your back on a religion and rejecting it is the penalty that you have to pay to Allah and it is between you and Allah- consequently it is up to you what you want to believe thankyou Aisha
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